SVEZIA

Per chi ha intenzione di specializzarsi in Svezia trover? qui sotto il link ad un sito con varie informazioni in merito. All\'interno dello stesso troverete pure altri indirizzi web che vi demanderanno presso altre pagine:http://www.helmsic.gr/residency-database/Swedenbye :)

ciao a tutti

ho scritto alla Karolinska Universitat di stoccolma.
Alla domanda se era possibile per studenti UE potersi specializzare nel loro paese ricevo questo documento via emai:

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Dear Sir/Madam


Thank you for your e-mail. Below, please, find information about postgraduate education at Karolinska Institutet (KI). 

Postgraduate education at Karolinska Institutet is largely based on the student’s personal research project, which is complemented with courses and clearly specified knowledge requirements. It requires normally a total of fours years’ full-time postgraduate education to acquire a Ph.D. degree.

There is no general admission to postgraduate studies at KI. This means that everyone who applies for admission to postgraduate training at KI has to find a supervisor among established researchers at KI that wants to accept him or her as a postgraduate student. 

Please, find first a supervisor and a research group working within your field of interest that is willing to accept you and your research idea (or involve you in a planned/started project). For a list of all KI departments visit this website ki.se/ki/jsp/polopoly.jsp?d=1186&l=en . You can also find a supervisor by looking at www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?DB=pubmed and type Karolinska together with your field of interest. On ki.se/ki/jsp/polopoly.jsp?d=130&l=en you can search for staff (e-mail addresses). For information about postgraduate programs see ki.se/ki/jsp/polopoly.jsp?d=270&a=15586&l=en (some of these programmes are in the starting phase). When you have found a supervisor that has time and resources and is willing to guide you you write an individual study plan together with him or her and describe how you will be paid during your studies (see ki.se/content/1/c4/06/34/blankett%203,%2...tudieplan%2006-03-14 . doc and ki.se/ki/jsp/polopoly.jsp?d=534&l=en ). To be accepted as a postgraduate student, the student must also be able to prove general eligibility with at least 120 credit points from previous studies as an undergraduate student at a university (160 credit points from July 1 2007). For more information see ki.se/ki/jsp/polopoly.jsp?d=270&a=632&l=en . There are no official requirements for the command of the English language. However, you have to present your individual study plan at a seminar in English for a committee at the Department where you want to be registered as a Ph.D. student. After that the head of the Department decides to accept or not accept your request to be a research student. 

For foreign students it is also advisable to consider their future career after graduation already at the start of the research training. We would like to suggest that you not only look for supervisors at KI but also try to establish close contacts with a suitable institution in your country. Such collaboration will no doubt facilitate for you to get funds for your research later on.

You are suggested to read the new rules for postgraduate education at ki.se/content/1/c4/84/60/Engelska%20regler.pdf . It is also recommended to read the "Handbook for Postgraduate Students" from the National Agency for Higher Education that you can find on www.doktorandhandboken.nu/english/

You will find more information about postgraduate studies at KI on ki.se/ki/jsp/polopoly.jsp?d=2415&l=en  

Practical information is provided on ki.se/ki/jsp/polopoly.jsp?d=592&l=en

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invio un'altra mail..perchè voglio capire bene:vedendo i siti sopra indicati, si capisce che questi corsi postgraduate sono basati " su progetti personali di ricerca" e che durano 4 anni.

ricevo risposta da una persona diversa che mi dice:

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Please, note that Doctoral education at Karolinska Institutet (aiming for either a licentiate or Ph.D. degree) is largely based on the student's personal research project, which is complemented with courses and clearly specified knowledge requirements. It requires normally a total of fours years' full-time doctoral education to acquire a Ph.D. degree. Doctoral education at Karolinska Institutet does not involve courses for specialization, updating methodology, or continuous medical training.
Specialty training (residency) in Sweden is composed of hospital services in a subordinate position under full professional responsibility (you have to speak Swedish fluently).The training period within the specialty itself and within other relevant fields is in progress during at least five years. Specialty training cannot be commenced until full registration as a Swedish medical practitioner has been achieved. There are no courses at the Swedish medical schools or teaching hospitals leading to the qualification as a specialist. More information on www.socialstyrelsen.se/english/livingins...ionforswedishlicense


non c'ho dedicato tanto tempo..e non c'ho capito tanto..

No ma il discorso è semplice, come ogni paese che si rispetti anche in Svezia la specializzazione è vista come un allenamento (specialty training) in un determinato campo, non come una continuazione degli studi universitari.

Infatti in Svezia immagino, come in UK, Germania, Svizzera, ecc., la specializzazione non è necessariamente legata alle Università, ma agli ospedali.

Quindi suppongo tu abbia sbagliato ad inviare la mail all'Università, che invece ti ha risposto riguarda la possibilità di fare dei PhD (ovveri dei dottorati di ricerca).

Penso che solo in Italia la specializzazione di un medico sia legata all'università e non agli ospedali in generale.

ciao a tutti

ho scritto alla Karolinska Universitat di stoccolma.
Alla domanda se era possibile per studenti UE potersi specializzare nel loro paese ricevo questo documento via emai:

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Dear Sir/Madam


Thank you for your e-mail. Below, please, find information about postgraduate education at Karolinska Institutet (KI). 

Postgraduate education at Karolinska Institutet is largely based on the student’s personal research project, which is complemented with courses and clearly specified knowledge requirements. It requires normally a total of fours years’ full-time postgraduate education to acquire a Ph.D. degree.

There is no general admission to postgraduate studies at KI. This means that everyone who applies for admission to postgraduate training at KI has to find a supervisor among established researchers at KI that wants to accept him or her as a postgraduate student. 

Please, find first a supervisor and a research group working within your field of interest that is willing to accept you and your research idea (or involve you in a planned/started project). For a list of all KI departments visit this website ki.se/ki/jsp/polopoly.jsp?d=1186&l=en . You can also find a supervisor by looking at www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?DB=pubmed and type Karolinska together with your field of interest. On ki.se/ki/jsp/polopoly.jsp?d=130&l=en you can search for staff (e-mail addresses). For information about postgraduate programs see ki.se/ki/jsp/polopoly.jsp?d=270&a=15586&l=en (some of these programmes are in the starting phase). When you have found a supervisor that has time and resources and is willing to guide you you write an individual study plan together with him or her and describe how you will be paid during your studies (see ki.se/content/1/c4/06/34/blankett%203,%2...tudieplan%2006-03-14 . doc and ki.se/ki/jsp/polopoly.jsp?d=534&l=en ). To be accepted as a postgraduate student, the student must also be able to prove general eligibility with at least 120 credit points from previous studies as an undergraduate student at a university (160 credit points from July 1 2007). For more information see ki.se/ki/jsp/polopoly.jsp?d=270&a=632&l=en . There are no official requirements for the command of the English language. However, you have to present your individual study plan at a seminar in English for a committee at the Department where you want to be registered as a Ph.D. student. After that the head of the Department decides to accept or not accept your request to be a research student. 

For foreign students it is also advisable to consider their future career after graduation already at the start of the research training. We would like to suggest that you not only look for supervisors at KI but also try to establish close contacts with a suitable institution in your country. Such collaboration will no doubt facilitate for you to get funds for your research later on.

You are suggested to read the new rules for postgraduate education at ki.se/content/1/c4/84/60/Engelska%20regler.pdf . It is also recommended to read the "Handbook for Postgraduate Students" from the National Agency for Higher Education that you can find on www.doktorandhandboken.nu/english/

You will find more information about postgraduate studies at KI on ki.se/ki/jsp/polopoly.jsp?d=2415&l=en  

Practical information is provided on ki.se/ki/jsp/polopoly.jsp?d=592&l=en

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invio un'altra mail..perchè voglio capire bene:vedendo i siti sopra indicati, si capisce che questi corsi postgraduate sono basati " su progetti personali di ricerca" e che durano 4 anni.

ricevo risposta da una persona diversa che mi dice:

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Please, note that Doctoral education at Karolinska Institutet (aiming for either a licentiate or Ph.D. degree) is largely based on the student's personal research project, which is complemented with courses and clearly specified knowledge requirements. It requires normally a total of fours years' full-time doctoral education to acquire a Ph.D. degree. Doctoral education at Karolinska Institutet does not involve courses for specialization, updating methodology, or continuous medical training.
Specialty training (residency) in Sweden is composed of hospital services in a subordinate position under full professional responsibility (you have to speak Swedish fluently).The training period within the specialty itself and within other relevant fields is in progress during at least five years. Specialty training cannot be commenced until full registration as a Swedish medical practitioner has been achieved. There are no courses at the Swedish medical schools or teaching hospitals leading to the qualification as a specialist. More information on www.socialstyrelsen.se/english/livingins...ionforswedishlicense


non c'ho dedicato tanto tempo..e non c'ho capito tanto..

Ciao, confermo, il discorso sopra affrontato riguarda i dottorati di ricerca. Le specializzazioni vengono considerate a parte. Per maggiori informazioni sulle specializzazioni in Svezia ecco le info:

www.residency-database.helmsic.gr/Sweden

bye

anch'io avevo fatto lo stesso iter per contatare la svexia (proprio 10 giorni fa) con le stesse risposte...il problema maggiore è che ora nn riesco a contattera gli ospedali od il ministero della salute....nessuno mi considera (mentre al karolinka instittute mi ha nno risposto subito)....

chiedo scusa a marky perchè mi son reso conto dopo che lui aveva già aperto un topic svezia.
quindi in effetti in svezia, la specializzazione mi dura 4 anni!..siamo sicuri che dopo ce la convalidano in italia oppure ovunque in UE?
cmq notavo una "bella" cosa: qui non sono richiesti certificati che attestino la conoscenza dello svedese..però purtroppo lo svedese sarà lontano anni luce dalla soglia di comprensione umana!..poi dice che è anche richiesto "some english"!